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Floor markings

Hello: I saw a concert filmed there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFjQ77ol2DI What does the wording say on the floor under the orchestra? "in memory" "of this college who" "save their lives" "war". That's all I can make out under the feet of the players. Seems that was significant enough to tile into the floor. May be obvious to people who go there, but not to someone on the other side of the pond. I did an internet search on those snatches of words and did not find it. Kristinwt (talk) 03:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kristinwt: first world war memorial "‘In memory of the men of this College who gave their lives in war MCMXIV – MCMXVIII’" http://trinitycollegechapel.com/about/memorials/war-memorials/ Probably too minor to be in this article. Might be appropriate for Trinity College Chapel, Cambridge but that article needs work. I note the King's College Chapel, Cambridge article also needs work; for instance, it doesn't mention the controversy (at the time) about its first world war memorial (see https://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/archive-centre/online-resources/online-exhibitions/first-world-war-roll-of-honour). --Erp (talk) 00:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Scholarships and prizes

There is a "citation needed" tag at the end of this section which may refer to the entire section, or only the last two sentences: "The right to walk on the grass in the college courts is exclusive to Fellows of the college and their guests. Scholars do, however, have the right to walk on the Scholars' Lawn, but only in full academic dress." Whichever is the case, those 2 sentences as written, even if verified, seem more like shoehorned trivia, non-encyclopedic to me. O0drogue0o (talk) 11:31, 14 November 2021 (UTC) =I, for one, like shoehorned trivia. It's culture. It's not obvious and does not take up too many bytes. Worth it for rounding out the air of the subject. Kristinwt (talk) 05:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Boosterism

There are some concerns regarding WP:BOOSTER content in the lede. Recent additions made by an IP editor (who may have a WP:COI), has expanded the lede with two alumni sections, among others. The alumni section is almost certainly overrepresented and WP:UNDUE — two paragraphs dedicated to it is excessive. Moreover, there are MOS:PUFFERY and WP:SYNTH issues which are unsupported by the sources:

Academically, Trinity performs exceptionally as measured by the Tompkins Table (the annual unofficial league table of Cambridge colleges), coming top from 2011 to 2017.

Exceptionally is unsupported by the source, which makes to value judgement regarding Trinity.

Trinity was the top-performing college for the 2020–21 undergraduate exams, obtaining the highest percentage of good honours.

This one is not supported by the source, which pertains to the 2021–22 year. Christ's College, Cambridge, is the college with the highest percentage, with Trinity coming in 3rd behind Selwyn College – Trinity has no top position among either of the categories.

The first alumni section is most appropriate to keep, and it should be moved down in the lede to stay in line with other alumni ledes. The second alumni section pertains almost solely to Trinity educating royalty, a subject which doesn't have much weight in the body. Such information should be relegated to the body, and not featured prominently in the lede (or otherwise trimmed and incorporated in the previous section). GuardianH (talk) 03:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What nonsense! All the "Recent additions made by an IP editor" amount to is reversions of your removals, which began in May this year. The current lead is very little changed since early 2022, which is as far back as I can be bothered to look. Your far-too-drastic reductions to the lead have now been reverted by several editors, and you should take note of this. The specific points you raise should be looked into, but you have damaged your credibility on this. If you think that Charles III studying there is not lead-worthy, I think - well, I'd better not say what I think. Johnbod (talk) 15:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. If Charles III is to be put in the lede, then let him have the WP:DUE weight in the body to support such a prominent place. A royal has no greater claim to fame than any other Englishman as far as we should be concerned. GuardianH (talk) 19:43, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chair leg

Hi all, I don't know how to edit Wikipedia, but just thought to let you know, to commemorate the King's birthday, the chair leg was replaced with a golden sceptre. See: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-67420099 131.111.184.7 (talk) 08:52, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]